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Joseph Shelmerdine. b1808-d1883 Parents: William. b1780 & Mary Married Alice Devonport b.1816-c1842 Parents: James & Jane Devonport |
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Joseph was born c1808, he mentions his father William on two occasion on
his two marriages but we don't find a baptism event that matches Joseph's
given birth year as yet. As such a full extraction of Manchester parish
church (Cathedral) needs to be completed as it seems the family
haven't really ventured far from central Manchester.
Joseph married Alice Devonport on the 22nd May 1839 her given address
of Gregson St matches the 1851 census return for her parents. On the
marriage entry Joseph's
father is named as William and is occupation is a Hatter. They don't give
their ages on the marriage entry other then a comment of 'full'
in the age column?
Normally after marriage children follow immediately but their first
recorded child James is 2 years later. I cant find them in the
1841 census so far, and there are only 3 Joseph's in the entire census
return as held by Ancestry.com unless the transcribers have missed them
off as these 3 don't match 2 off them being able to read and write and
one with a large young family.
Marriage record Manchester Cathedral. We have a recorded baptism for Sarah Shelmerdine recorded in the Manchester Cathedral register on the 29th June 1851 and it states she was born on the 20th Feb 1846. Normally a birth is followed by baptism within days, so why the delay? Joseph's trade is mentioned as a Hatter. Could they have moved away and such explains them not being in the census? Possible to Denton or Stockport area which lie just in Cheshire, these areas being the center of Hat production in the region? I would assume they did and this is under pinned by them ensuring Sarah was registered as baptised of 'this parish' to ensure if they or her fell on bad times she would be eligible for parish relief funds. I would guess she is recorded else where in another parish register and that may be Denton where her parents originally came from.
In the 1841 census return for lad lane, Manchester
HO 107/570/14 James Devonport according to the 1841 census is 50 years old and Jane is stated as 60 years old. Their living with their daughter Elizabeth age15 at Lad lane, Manchester. James is stated as a Mechanic so he will be maintaining machinery probably in a cotton or hat factory. They had at least two other children being Alice.1816 and Phoebe. There stated not of this county meaning not born in Lancashire and Janes in later census gives Eddington, Staffordshire as her birth place but James gives Prestwich, Lans. I assume they here living near Denton on the boarder of Lancashire and Cheshire being in Greater Manchester now.
Birth of Elizabeth Devonport.1816 at Manchester Cathedral Parish church. Father James is a Hatter by trade so matches the census, but Elizabeth is born in Lancashire but the 1841 census stated not of this county. The home address is stated as Denton being 6 miles down the present A57 and Denton is on the boarder of Cheshire. Denton being at the center of Hat manufacturing. (Moores Hat factory.)
1851 census. Gregson Street.
Its in St John's Parish so on the boarder of Hulme and Deansgate.
Schedule Num: 73 piece2227 Fol 630 page 18
Joseph remarries on the 5th April 1863 . He marries a Elizabeth Chester widow, having lived together as featured in the 1861 census. Joseph is illiterate along with Elizabeth according to the register entry below. Their stated address is 2 Southern Street, Hulme. The below picture of Southern St was taken in 1906 and its a real old Terrance Street. You can see they have Gas supply to them for light, heating and cooking. The marriage entry is of such good quality easy to read and clearly gives their parents names. Also we assume the witness to the marriage are fiends. What's interesting is John Taylor being her farther. This family names pops up in Joseph's sons family so they may be closely related of close family friends through marriages.
In the 1871 census 13 Southern St, Hulme.
I cant find Joseph in the 1881 census, I also cant find a death between
1871 census and 1881 census that fits him, however there is a death
entry recorded of oct/nov/dec1883 in the nation index for deaths in
the Chorton/Hulme area, age is given as 73 which
put this birth date of 1810 matching thereabouts given we never had a
baptism date for Joseph. Note there is also a 2nd Joseph who died
in Prestwich which could also fit but given such is 7 miles away seems
unlikely. |
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